Pragmatism in practice is our podcast series for business and technology leaders.
We have candid conversations with a diverse range of leaders from across the globe, who share their stories and practical approaches to becoming a modern digital business
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The future of digital payments
Growing preference for digital payments over cash is changing the nature of how people interact with money, with significant implications for businesses. How should companies adapt their products, services and payments infrastructure to remove the pain of payment? Ian Kelsall, Product Principal for Banking, Financial Services and Insurance and Fintech shares his thoughts on the future of digital payments.
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Meet the hosts
Pragmatism in practice features our regular co-hosts
Kimberly and Karen, along with a panel of guests from across the globe.

Global Head of Customer Marketing & Insights, Thoughtworks
A marketer with over 20 years experience in B2B consultancies, Kimberly draws upon her multi-disciplinary background in marketing, technology, corporate strategy and HR to drive growth, engagement, differentiated experiences and compelling conversations with digital leaders.

Global Head of Marketing Operations, Thoughtworks
With a commitment and passion for leadership and technology, Karen has over 20 years’ experience delivering strategic marketing solutions at both a global and regional level within the B2B technology sector.